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Grizzly G1066R 24" Drum Sander Review

Grizzly G1066R 24 Drum Sander
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A little trouble with the first shipment but could have been a ups issue. as far as the sander it works great. But expect a lot of set-up time. I probably spent a day on set-up but I'm very precise about my tools. Put casters on this bad boy, it weighs a lot. As far as sanding, it does an excellent job, super smooth after a couple of passes. Mine came with 60 and 100 grit paper on first and second drum, I changed it to 80/120 to get it ready for the random orbit sander for the final surface. Dust collection is not the best. I have it right beside my 1600cfm collector with 2 hoses, it gets the fine airbourne dust but leaves a lot on the wood and conveyor to fall off on the floor. The main thing this beast could use is some way of determining the set-up height. You have to push your wood in with the machine off and adjust by feel. It has plenty of power, never had it even grunt the least. The sandpaper attachment doesn't keep the paper tight enough for me so I spray the back of the sandpaper with contact adhesive just before rolling it on and then tape the ends with packing tape. I still have 24" of sanding because the rollers are about 25" to 25 1/2" long. I've had the machine for about six months and had no trouble. I find myself running everything through it from boards to gluded panels-(which I bought it for). Leaves edges square too. If your like me and can't justify a wide belt sander, I would recommend this powerful sander, and buy it again.

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Customers have asked us why our drums are not rubber coated. Rubber-coated drums become "spongy" & do not sand evenly or parallel to the ends.Now includes heavy-duty rubber conveyor belt similar to our wide belt sandersFeatures: ? 5 HP, 220V drum motor drives 2 aluminum sanding drums ? Handles stock up to 23-1/2" & 4-1/4" thick ? 1/4 HP conveyor motor provides 11 FPM feed rate ? Sand paper installs easily onto the drums ? All steel & ball bearing construction ? 2 - 4" dia. dust ports for easy hook-up to a collection system ? State-of-the-art computer balanced drums ? Powder coated paint ? Approximate shipping weight: 442 lbs.

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JET 649005K 22X44 Plus 22-Inch 1-3/4-Horsepower Drum Sander, 115-Volt 1-Phase Review

JET 649005K 22X44 Plus 22-Inch 1-3/4-Horsepower Drum Sander, 115-Volt 1-Phase
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I purchased this drum sander a week ago.
I am rating the Performax 22x44 Plus Drum Sander with Closed Stand.
The stand is completely assembled in the box. This is the first machine that I have assembled and didn't have any extra bolts or washers. Assembly was exactly as it was supposed to be with everything lining up perfectly. All allen wrenches were provided for assembly.
I only had to tighten the brake pedal. The paint job is wonderful.
The motor assembly is extremely heavy, however, I was able to assemble the entire machine in 20 minutes.
I purchased the optional infeed/outfeed tables and think they are great but should cost less than $100, more like $50. No, they should be included, but are not necessary.
Performance: The motor is unbelievable quiet. No vibration at all. It is hard to tell sometimes if the motor is running it is so quiet. I sanded a 14 inch wide board and the results were amazing. Dust collection is a must and my Delta 1200 CFM pulls 99% of the dust.
I use a 30 AMP service for the drum sander.
Drum alignment was spot on. It was only off by .002 of an inch. No adjustment needed at all!
I give it 4 stars because the mobile base moves inline and does not allow you to easily steer the machine. I also wished the conveyor motor was a little beefier. No problems. I just would like the assurance. The motor adjusts from 0 to 10 fpm.
(Update 12-1-06: I received the "handy" tool to assist with sanding belt changes. I COMPLETELY disagree with the instructions for changing the sandpaper on the drum. It is not necessary to use this tool. I and my family think this way is much better: Attach the paper to both sides, but do NOT tighten it on the motor side as instructed. Simply tighten it by hand on the left side where you have much more room and can do it with your fingers. If you own this tool you will see exactly what I am talking about. It is so easy this way.
I am so happy I received this machine. It was given as an early Father's Day gift.
4/09 Update: If I were looking today for a sander, I would take a hard look at Steel City's dual drum sander. You can put two different grits of paper on the machine and really move things along. The price is so close. You also get two four inch dust ports on it. I would buy it now if I didn't already have the Jet/Performax. honestly

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Whether you're a hobbyist or serious craftsperson, the JET 649005K 22X44 Plus 22-Inch 1-3/4 HP Drum Sander, 115-Volt 1-Phase will provide the smooth, consistent sanding you need to finish projects both big and small. One of the largest sanders available in its class, the 22X44 Plus allows you to sand material up to 44 inches wide with better accuracy than any other sander in its category.
Innovative SandSmart Technology for Automatic Speed RegulationThe 22X44 Plus features Jet's "SandSmart" control that continually monitors the load on the drum motor and automatically regulates the speed of the conveyor motor to maintain the highest feed rate without overload. If the load on the drum motor increases, the SandSmart control will decrease the conveyor feed rate and will stop the conveyor under extreme conditions.
If the load on the drum decreases, SandSmart will increase it faster than the manual setting on the speed adjustment label. This feature works in conjunction with a red indicator light that goes on when the SandSmart control has detected too great a depth of cut and/or too fast a speed rate.
High Capacity for Improved ProductivityThe 22X44 Plus flawlessly sands pieces of stock with a 44-inch width in just two passes, whether you're at the maximum workpiece thickness of four inches or the thinnest, which is 1/32 inch. For added convenience, operation is smooth, quiet, and vibration-free.
"Trackers" and Self-Cooling Drum for Consistent PerformanceJet's patented conveyor belt "trackers" dramatically reduce the need for manual belt adjustments, while the precision-machined, balanced, extruded aluminum drum self-cools to protect the surface being sanded from heat damage.
Sealed Drum Ball Bearings and Reinforced Steel Conveyor Belt for DurabilityBoasting quality construction and materials from top to bottom, the 22X44 Plus is built to last. Sealed and permanently lubricated drum ball bearings ensure longer life, while the precision-flattened, reinforced steel conveyor belt and no-give power feed belt provide a flat, durable sanding surface for better results, job after job.
Cast-Iron Handwheel and Adjustable Drum Height for PrecisionTo ensure precision, the cast-iron handwheel adjusts height at 1/16 inch per turn for sanding thickness control and precise stock removal, and the drum height and downward pressure are both adjustable to virtually eliminate snipe. And to prevent slippage, zinc-plated steel tension rollers mount right next to the drum.
Continuous-Duty Motor for Heavy Use Over Longer PeriodsEquipped with a continuous-duty, 1-3/4 HP motor, the 22X44 Plus is specially designed for heavier use over longer periods of time. This one-feed/one-drive motor model also allows for superior sanding control with a wide range of different wood types.
Operator-Friendly Design Improves ProductivityMade to be operator-friendly, the 22X44 Plus boasts patented abrasive take-up fasteners for quick and easy changes. The on/off switch has overload protection and is front-mounted for accessibility and to help prevent accidental start-ups.
The 22X44 Plus requires minimal assembly, weighs 345 pounds, and is backed by a five-year warranty.
About JET: A History of Sharing New, Feature-Rich ProductsOpened in 1958 after the founder of the company, Leslie P. Sussman, took the first Boeing Jet Airplane trip from Seattle, Washington to Japan, JET began as a small dealer that sold air hoists and trolleys out of a single hardware store in Seattle. Over the years, JET has carried everything from snowmobiles, transmitter radios, and forklifts to nylon stockings, but by the early 1970s, metalworking had become the base of their business line. And by the 1980s, JET had expanded into the realm of woodworking. Today, you'll find that JET offers a wide range of popular woodworking tools that are backed with best-in-class features and excellent service.


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JET 628900 Mini 10-Inch 1-Horsepower Benchtop Drum Sander, 115-Volt 1-Phase Review

JET 628900 Mini 10-Inch 1-Horsepower Benchtop Drum Sander, 115-Volt 1-Phase
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I do a lot of work with wild grained woods...such as walnut, burl maple, mesquite, etc. My planer often would tear these boards up pretty bad. Plus the planer is not the tool for fixing the cupping and small twists that are epidemic with this type of wood. The 10x20 does solve most of these problems. It's not a planer, so using it to dimension lumber is a long slow chore, but with a good resaw blade on the bandsaw, I can get close to the dimension I want then finish with the sander. I really like being able to take the cup and crown off boards before I resaw them. This ability alone makes the purchase price worthwhile. I made a 1/4" plywood template of the factory strip and buy rolls of sandpaper, clamp the template over a strip on my bench, then cut new strips with a sharp utility knife. Saves a lot of money over buying the factory made ones. Changing the strips at first is a little frustrating, but by the time you have changed them out 6 or 8 times it gets to be routine. The "TOUGH TOOL" that was included with my sander does really help, especially with the inboard side. I had some tracking problems with the feed belt also. A friend who is a machinest, was watching me run some coca bola strips thru the machine, noted that the machine was "racked" in relation to the base. It was such a small amount that I would have never noticed it. With the machine still mounted to the base, he had me loosen all the bolts holding the base together, and the bolts holding the machine to the base. He then "wiggled" the machine and had me retighten the bolts holding the machine to the base, then tighten the bolts on the base starting at the top and working down. Haven't had a tracking problem since.
The four inch dust chute is great, does a good job of catching most of the dust.
I haven't had the limiter kick the motor off yet, or experienced a piece flying across the room as some reviewers have noted. I do tend to use a slower feed rate then is probably neccesary, but this is a hobby so I'm not in any hurry anyway.
The finish, especially on exotic hardwoods is very good, even when I only go to 180 grit.
I can now do in 15 minutes the same amount of work that use to take me a couple of hours. I have only used the double pass method twice now, once on an 18" wide piece of black mesquite and once on a 20" wide piece of spanish cedar. Adjusting the bar was not the nightmare I had invisioned, both pieces came thru as flat as I could ever hope for. This little machine is a very welcome addition to my shop. It is ruggedly built and very solid. I expect to get a lot of years of use out of it and would reccommend it to anyone who is "space challenged", but still wants a good drum sander.
Update...I've found that if you are sanding boards much more than 9" wide, you need to treat them as if you were doing a much wider board...that is to say double pass them. If you try to run a 10" board thru, using the full width of the drum, you will develope a ridge on the inboard side. Not really a big deal,easy to cure.
Still love this little machine, recommend highly.

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Compact, efficient, and well-made, the JET 628900 Mini 10-Inch 1 HP Benchtop Drum Sander, 115-Volt 1-Phase will sand boards measuring up to three inches thick and 20 inches wide, while the aluminum, self-cooling drum protects the sanding surface from heat damage. Whether you're a hobbyist or a craftsperson with a smaller-sized home shop, this workhorse is ready to tackle all your woodworking projects.
Variable Speed Control and Sealed Ball Bearings for Longer LifeThe 628900 features infinitely variable speed control to produce the ultimate finish at a rate from zero to 12 feet per minute. This design also prevents machine overload and combines with sealed and permanently lubricated drum ball bearings for longer life.
Patented "Trackers" and Steel Conveyor Belt for ConsistencyPatented conveyor belt "trackers" dramatically reduce the need for manual belt adjustments. Additionally, the precision-flattened reinforced steel conveyor bed and no-give power feed belt provide a constant smooth sanding action for better, more consistent results.
Cast-Iron Handwheel and Adjustable Drum Height for PrecisionTo ensure precision, the cast-iron handwheel adjusts height at 1/16 inch per turn for sanding thickness control and precise stock removal, and the drum height and downward pressure are both adjustable to virtually eliminate snipe.
Continuous Duty Motor for Optimum ControlThe 628900 comes equipped with a continuous duty, 1 HP motor specially designed for heavier use for longer periods of time. This one-motor/one-feed model also allows for superior sanding control.
Operator-Friendly Design Improves ProductivityMade to be operator-friendly, the 628900 boasts patented abrasive take-up fasteners for quick and easy changes. Its on/off switch with overload protection is front-mounted for effortless accessibility and to help prevent accidental start-ups. This drum sander also includes a four-inch dust port to help keep your workspace clean.
The 628900 requires minimal assembly, measures 20 x 20 x 27 inches (WxHxD), weighs 104 pounds, and is backed by a five-year warranty.
About JET: A History of Sharing New, Feature-Rich ProductsOpened in 1958 after the founder of the company, Leslie P. Sussman, took the first Boeing Jet Airplane trip from Seattle, Washington to Japan, JET began as a small dealer that sold air hoists and trolleys out of a single hardware store in Seattle. Over the years, JET has carried everything from snowmobiles, transmitter radios, and forklifts to nylon stockings, but by the early 1970s, metalworking had become the base of their business line. And by the 1980s, JET had expanded into the realm of woodworking. Today, you'll find that JET offers a wide range of popular woodworking tools that are backed with best-in-class features and excellent service.
What's in the BoxOne sander assembly, one handwheel with handle, one TUF tool, one abrasive strip (wrapped on the drum), one conveyor belt (attached to the base), owner's manual, warranty card, one hardware bag (to attach the sander to the optional open stand) containing four 3/8-inch to 16 x 5/8-inch hex cap screws and four 3/8-inch flat washers.

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JET 629004K 16-32 Plus 16-Inch 1-1/2-Horsepower Open Stand Drum Sander, 110-Volt 1 Phase Review

JET 629004K 16-32 Plus 16-Inch 1-1/2-Horsepower Open Stand Drum Sander, 110-Volt 1 Phase
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A drum sander is a pretty basic machine; a sandpaper conveyer belt moves the wood under a spinning cylinder/drum that is covered in replaceable sand paper. Tensioned rollers keep the wood pressed down on the conveyer so it doesn't slip. The drum can be moved up and down to apply the proper sanding depth.
The problems some reviewers have had with this machine are:
1. There is a problem adjusting the tracking of the conveyer belt, which is like a giant portable belt sander. The belt can drift to one side or the other. The front roller is adjustable so the belt stays centered.
To facilitate this adjustment, Performax has included clever little captive wrenches built into the frame of the conveyer assembly. This should make the adjustment easy. However, mine drifted to the left and adjusting it had no effect. I ended up completely loosening all the adjusters, and starting over again. This time the belt centered and it was easy to adjust exactly to where it was supposed to be.
I suspect that the belt, which after all is 16" wide, might have been just a hair out of square and all the adjusting served to stretch it out to a perfect rectangle. I believe the problem is that some belts may be more out of square than others. The actual mechanism is unlikely to be defective.
2. Adjusting the sanding drum so it is parallel to the conveyer belt is obviously important, but it is not easy to do. There is a knob that you turn to move the outer end of the drum up and down until it is set correctly. However, one must loosen 4 (!) bolts to free the assembly so it will move and then tighten them to hold it in place. The act of tightening them moves the adjustment out of place. If you are a zillionith of an inch off on the inside, then you are way off 16" away on the outboard end. One can spend a lot of time messing with this.
Amazon recommends setting the outer end a teeny bit up when sanding panels wider than the drum. This will result in a high spot in the middle of the panel which is better than low spots or grooves caused by the outer end of the drum digging into the wood. However, adjusting the drum is such a pain that most people will be content to set it once and leave it.
I set mine to be just a tiny bit up, an unmeasureable amount. I send my boards destined for glue-up twice through on the final sanding , turned around the second time, so that each board side is equally thick on all edges.
3. Replacing the sandpaper just takes a little practice. Clearly, it must be installed properly to work well. The paper rolls onto the drum and each end is secured by little levered clips in the ends of the drum. A little tool is supplied to loosen the inbord clip, but I find that just just reaching and pulling it up with a finger is easier.
4. Some users have problems with the drum motor overload breaker popping. Pushing the reset button starts it up again. This is all by design so that you do not try to sand off more than you should in one pass or set the conveyer belt speed too high.
You must sand at a shallow depth and at low feed rate. If you think the sanding process is too slow and get impatient, just think of hand sanding. Even set at a crawl, the machine is way faster than you. All this depends on the grit, the kind wood, the width of the wood as well as the conveyer speed and the depth of cut.
I am careful to set a shallow sanding depth and a pretty slow feed rate and so I rarely have to reset it. If it does pop I just slow down the conveyer belt some more. This is a small machine with limited horsepower for small shops. There is a reason they make those 30 hp one-ton units. Like Norm's.
4. Some have complained about slop in the drum adjuster. The crank that moves the drum up and down has a lot of play in it so it is hard to feel how much actual adjustment is going on when the crank is turned. Tactile feel is very important when you are trying to adjust things just a hair. These sorts of measurements are too small to show up on the depth guage.
The adjuster should be equiped with an adjustable friction device. Several of my small tools have that feature and clearly a $1000 machine should. And I really miss an adjustable positive depth stop like my Makita planer. This would allow for a repeatable final sanding depth.
5. Snipe has been reported as a problem and it is. It is very difficult to hold the wood perfectly level as it enters and exits the drum. Setting up multiple roller stands is not easy and others have mentioned that the optional in and out-feed tables are difficult to level as well.
Some sort of built-in support is necessary for this machine to work properly. The tables, or other devices, should have been built in to the design and included in the price. This should not have been an option. It is like making the tires optional on a car. Speaking of options, I have a new Grizzly 6" jointer that came with built-in wheels. Very nice. Really quite necessary for the small shop. Aftermart wheels are available elsewhere.
So, what is my advice? This machine can be adjusted to function perfectly. When it is set up properly it is indeed a very useful and important tool. The problem is that the adjustments are too difficult and so many machines are out of adjustment and simply do not work as they should. In addition, not including the tables introduces an unnecessary cheap and greedy factor.
Performax is clearly not losing any money selling these units for $1000. Add on the the price of sandpaper and options and it is an even more costly option for the small shop. A tweak to the drum depth adjuster, a redesign of the drum levelling mechanism, a positive stop for the sanding depth, incorporating feed tables and making the stand mobile are really simple and inexpensive upgrades that lucky owners in the future hopefully will enjoy. I note that Grizzly now has a comparable consumer model and I suspect other manufactorers will enter the market. That competition will hopefully lower the price and increase the utility.
The whole idea of smoothing wood with rocks glued to fabric seems sort of strange, really. Perhaps the future will bring lasers or microwaves or something modern. In the meantime, be aware that sanders create a lot of dust, the fine and dangerous kind, much worse than shavings and such. I looked into shop dust control, hoping to get a simple vacuum, and found a whole confusing and expensive anti-dust world out there. A portable vac is not the best thing to use for high volumns of fine dust. Big dust collectors, cyclones and those sorts of things are more appropriate for this machine, but are very speciallized and expensive. I use the screaming Sears vac now (are all Sears product planners deaf?), but for many reasons that will have to change.
I can't go below 3 stars if, in the end, the machine actually performs as it should, but the inconvenience and cheapness factors noted above and in other reviews cost it a couple of stars.

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Cut your sanding time up to 75 percent with the JET 629004K 16-32 Plus 16-Inch 1-1/2 HP Open Stand Drum Sander, 110-Volt 1 Phase. This innovative tool elevates the primary woodworking tasks of sanding from long and slow to short and fast. Ideal for small commercial shops, this tool can be used in lieu of a planer, and it provides ample capacity to handle both small and large jobs with ease.
Easy-to-use adjusters make compensating for belt stretch simple, fast, and tool-free.A large crank changes the height of the sanding drum and ensure precision cut depth changes are easy to make.Precision Drum for Long, Smooth Operating LifeAt the heart of the 16-32 Plus is the sanding drum, which is specifically designed for smooth running and the dissipation of heat. Measuring 16 inches in length with a five-inch diameter, this precision-machined and balanced extruded aluminum drum is self-cooling to help prevent heat-related damage of the wood or sanding strip under load. For added peace of mind, the sanding drum turns on sealed and permanently lubricated one-inch-diameter ball bearings for a long, smooth operating life.
Additionally, the drum height and downward roller pressure are both user adjustable to virtually eliminate snipe.
Handles a Wide Range of Material SizesThe 16-32 Plus handles a wide range of material sizes quickly and easily. It can sand materials as thick as three inches, as thin as 1/32 inch, and anywhere in-between. Unlike planers--which often have a minimum length requirement of a foot or more--the 16-32 Plus can safely handle pieces as short as 2-1/4 inches.
The open frame design also lets you sand pieces measuring up to 32 inches wide by making two passes. Additionally, a camber adjustment makes it easy to prevent "witness marks" when making two passes on wide boards.
Infinitely Variable Feed Rate for FlexibilityThe infinitely variable feed rate and the wide range of sanding grits available combine to handle fast rough work or fine sanding on any species of wood. At the same time, the generous, stable conveyor platform makes turning material very accurate while smoothing the surface at the same time.
Dual Motors for Power and ControlThe 16-32 Plus comes equipped with two high quality motors: a 1-1/2 HP, (rated using continuous duty cycle) 1 phase, 110-volt, 14 Amp motor that spins the sanding drum at a consistent 1725 RPM, and a direct drive 43 in./lbs. torque motor that drives the conveyor belt separately. Both are TEFC (totally enclosed fan cooled) motors designed to operate in a potentially dusty environment.
For added protection, a safety keyed on/off switch with overload protection controls the sanding drum and is front-mounted for operating convenience. And an infinitely variable-speed control on the conveyor belt produces the ultimate finish at a rate from zero to 10 feet per minute.
Patented Trackers for Quick and Easy AdjustmentsJet's patented conveyor belt "trackers" eliminate the need for manual belt adjustments, ensuring precise results. Independent tracking adjusters on either side of the conveyor are easily accessible and simple to use should tracking adjustments become necessary--as when a new conveyor belt may need slight tracking or tensioning adjustments after it breaks in.
Reinforced Steel Conveyor Bed and No-Give Power Feed for ConsistencyA precision-flattened reinforced steel conveyor bed holds the stock flat during sanding. A reliable no-give power feed belt provides a consistent, smooth sanding action to provide the finest results.
Dust Port for Efficient Dust CollectionTo help maintain healthy air quality in your shop, and to make sure your vision isn't obscured by dust, the hinged top cover has a four-inch diameter dust port molded into the upper shroud to help evacuate most of the dust created as you work. Connect to an efficient dust collector like the JET DC1100 for best results.
Performax Spring Clip for Quick ChangesThe 16-32 Plus also includes a special spring clip invented by Performax that holds the end of the sandpaper roll. This clever invention makes for quick and easy paper changes, saving you time and stress.
The 16-32 Plus weighs 145 pounds and is backed by a five-year warranty.
About JET: A History of Sharing New, Feature-Rich ProductsOpened in 1958 after the founder of the company, Leslie P. Sussman, took the first Boeing Jet Airplane trip from Seattle, Washington to Japan, JET began as a small dealer that sold air hoists and trolleys out of a single hardware store in Seattle. Over the years, JET has carried everything from snowmobiles, transmitter radios, and forklifts to nylon stockings, but by the early 1970s, metalworking had become the base of their business line. And by the 1980s, JET had expanded into the realm of woodworking. Today, you'll find that JET offers a wide range of popular woodworking tools that are backed with best-in-class features and excellent service.
What's in the BoxDrum sander, 80-grit abrasive strip, 100-grit abrasive belt, TufTool, metal stand with shelf, and one box of ready-to-wrap abrasives.

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