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Bosch AquaStar Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater #125HX-NG Review

Bosch AquaStar Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater #125HX-NG
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We have had the hydroignition Bosch 125 Natural Gas Tankless for a year and a half now. It is absolutely incredible. I have checked our gas bill each month for the first year and the minimum we have saved (gas usage, not gas bill) is 22% each month! We have used as much as 77% less gas than the same month the previous year. Unlimited hot water on demand! No drawbacks. Plus, it uses a small space compared to the dinosaur tank water heater we had before. It fits attached to a stud where it's out of the way!!!! I would NEVER go back to the traditional tank water heater. Temperature control is extremely simple. Don't let unknowledgeable plumbers steer you astray with ridiculous things like "the water doesn't get hot" UNTRUE!!!!! Those plumbers just don't know and don't care to know and are stuck in the plumbing dark ages. This is the only way to go. Bosch stands behind this product.

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Bosch 1600H NG AquaStar 4.3 GPM Indoor Tankless Natural Gas Water Heater Review

Bosch 1600H NG AquaStar 4.3 GPM Indoor Tankless Natural Gas Water Heater
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EDIT - 1/11/08 -------------------------------------------------
I've been having trouble with the Aquastar lately. It still works but doesn't like to work when the furnance is running. I assumed the furnance was drawing down the gas pressure in the line but after having the gas company out and an HVAC technician they both concluded the pressure is steady and sufficient. Contacting Bosch technical support has proven to be an exercize in patience to say the least. Each phone call (there have been 3) has taken a minimum of 50 minutes on hold. I've spoken to three different techs and have been given three different solutions. First call, very nice lady, apolgized for the wait, I told her the problems and she sent me a new control box (didn't work). The second time I called, the tech told me it was my problem and not the Aquastar. He said I had insufficient gas pressure (I didn't), said I had a vent back draft (tested, I didn't) basically he blew me off. He gave me the phone number of a local tech (wasn't local-40 miles away) that I'd have to pay for (because it was my problem) to come and diagnose my Aquastar. I decided to call back because I was very unhappy with the technical support I had just received. My intent was to make a complaint, but on my third call I talked to yet another tech who diagnosed yet another possibility. He sent me another part to replace, which still hasn't solved the problem. Which is where I'm at at the moment.
I've done some more research on the internet and it seems that Bosch Hotwater tech support is reknown for poor service. Unfortunately that's something you only find out when the unit isn't working.
I'll have to change my recommendation from a buy to a don't buy at this point based solely on customer service. Hot water is not something you can readily do without for any period of time and if you do have a problem with the Aquastar, waiting days to have it fixed is not a solution.
Another curious observation, why is there such a wait for tech support? Must be a lot of broken Aquastars out there.
END EDIT ------------------------------------------------I installed the Aquastar 1600H myself in about 3 hours. I bought it at Lowes and like the other reviewer, had to go to HomeDepot to buy the 5" class B ducting. I gave the Lowes sales ppl an ear full about that but it just went in one ear and out the other.
If you're comfortable with sweeting copper and plumbing your own gas lines its really not that difficult. My biggest problem was positioning the unit so I could vent the exhaust gases. If you don't have a straight vent stack and have to feed the exhaust into the chimney like I did, it required placing the unit really low on the wall. You are required to vent straight up for the first 12" before you can elbow the vent. Along with the minimum run vs. rise of the vent pipe, it forced me to place the unit just barely a foot off the ground. Your situation may be different but keep it in mind. Also, it requires a minimum of 3/4" inside diameter black iron gas pipe. In some cases if you're tapping into the same gas line as your furnance, you may have to install 1" gas line. This unit requires a lot of BTU's and if you choke down below 3/4" it will not run properly. So that means no yellow flexible line to make the last connection. You'll have to hard plumb the iron pipe all the way to the unit.
There are both benifits and negatives to this unit. First the benifits. Long, long, long showers. Literally, you can take a shower all day. Then the next person in line doesn't have to wait for the water to heat back up. It's ready to go. Great for a family getting ready in the morning. Second, big savings on the gas bill. My bill dropped $20 the month after I installed this unit. I figure it will pay for itself in less than two years after the tax credit.
Now for the negatives. Low hot water pressure. That takes some getting used to. The unit has a maximum 4.3 gpm, but that's really unreasonable.(Take into consideration that I'm in the Northern USA and the water in coming into the house is at 50 degrees.) At that flow rate the water doesn't heat up above 90 degrees. That makes it warm not hot. You have to turn down the flow rate to 2.3 gpm to heat the water to 120 degrees. At that flow rate / pressure, if you open two hot water spigots anywhere in the house at the same time it becomes a trickle. There is no way you could run the shower or any other appliance like the dishwasher or washing machine at the same time. If you turn the Aquastar back up to 4.3 gpm you could, but you'll be taking a warm shower not hot (in my case).
Also, at 2.3 gpm, it takes a long time for the hot water to actually get to the faucet. It probably takes 4 to 5 times longer than it used to for hot water to flow from the tap than it did with the old tank system. For example, if I'm washing my hands, by the time I'm done lathering up and rinsing, the water is just now starting to get hot. I've come to realize its not even worth turning the hot water on for short burst of hot water like that.
It takes adaptation to get use to this, like this trick I use in the morning. I turn the hot water on and brush my teeth while the water is slowly making it's way to the tap. Once it's hot, then I turn on the shower. Otherwise I have to let the shower flow for what seems like a very long time before it starts getting up to temperature.
Would I recommend this unit. It depends. If you really need the ability to run two showers or two appliances at the same time, then no way. You'll have to go with the next unit up that has a faster flow rate. There's no way this unit can handle that.
But if you think you can adapt to the low flow rate and really enjoy taking all day hot showers while saving money on your gas bill then this is the unit for you. I really enjoy the savings and long showers.
One more thing. The manual says you have to clean the unit once a year to maintain its efficiency. That means disassembling some parts in the unit. Clean them and put it back together. I haven't had to do this yet, but its just one more thing to consider before you switch to tankless hot water.


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Bosch 1600H-NGBosch AquaStar 1600H-NG (Natural Gas)Except for the ignition system, the 1600H(hydro-ignition) is the same as the 1600P(standing pilot).The Bosch AquaStar 1600H replaces the 125HX model and is designed to vent vertically and requires a 5" type-b double wall vent. Can be vented horizontally with the addition of the AQ4. The Bosch AquaStar 1600H tankless water heaters supply one major hot water outlet at a time. They are sized for most homes and small businesses and have a 12-year manufacturer's warranty when installed professionally.Bosch 1600H-NGBosch AquaStar 1600H-NG (Natural Gas) Features:; Delivers up to 4.3 gallons per minute; No standing pilot â no electricity needed; 12-year warranty on heat exchanger â 2 years on parts; Provides ENDLESS supply of hot water; Saves up to 50% off utility costs; Compact and lightweight; Can simply hang on the wall; Modulating gas valve to control temperature; Pressure relief valve included; Vents with inexpensive and readily available 5â B Type Galvanized vent pipe "; Power Input :30,735-117,000 Btu; Minimum Flow to Activate (gpm): 0.6 gallons per minute (gpm); Flow Rates 90° F rise / 2.1 gpm 77° F rise / 2.4 gpm 65° F rise / 2.9 gpm 55° F rise / 3.4 gpm 45° F rise / 4.3 gpm; Energy Factor : .80; Thermal Efficiency : 80%; Dimensions: H: 25 ¾" W: 16 ¾" D: 8½"; Weight: 33lbs.; Modulating Gas Valve: Yes; Ignition: Hydro-generated (no electricity); Accessories: Power vent for horizontal venting Vertical Vent Kit (H/P VVT); Hydro-powered sparked ignition, no outside power required; New technology generates pilot spark from the flow of water; Like a hydro dam producing electricity, the system ignites the burners when water is flowing without the need for electricity or batteries; Uses no energy when idle; Includes a pressure relief valve; Natural gas, hydro-generated unit; 117,000 BTU/input; 0.82 efficiency rating; 0.78 energy factor

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Rheem RTG-66DVN Direct Vent Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater for 2-3 Bathroom Homes Review

Rheem RTG-66DVN Direct Vent Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater for 2-3 Bathroom Homes
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This is the second Rheem tankless water heater I've installed during my ongoing-home-renovation project (I now have one on each end of the house).
Some things to be aware of:
1) There is a lag for the tankless water heater to kick in and start hot water through the pipes (three seconds?). My kitchen sink is on the floor directly above the tankless water heater and I have to run over a gallon of water out before I get hot water. For that reason I am going to install under-the-sink, pass-through mini-tank (2.5 gallon) electric water heaters in the kitchen and bathrooms for instant hot water.
2) In both cases I've direct-vented horizontally, through a stud wall that is in front of a 12" concrete block wall. The main horizontal 3"/5" pipe that comes in the direct-vent kit is too short to go through about 17" of wall, so I had to buy a longer 3"/5" pipe (for an extra $100) from Rheem to get through the walls. You still need to buy the kit, though, for the elbow and outside termination pieces.
3) This is subjective, but it seems the water in the hot water pipe gets cold faster than it did with the tank water heater. With a tank water heater you could get hot water, then come back 20 minutes later and the water was still fairly warm right away. With the tankless water heater it seems the water gets colder faster, so you have to run that gallon of water through the pipes to get to the hot water again. In both cases the hot water pipes were insulated.
4) About once every two-three months the wired-in remote control displays an error number...it has been different every time. The first two times the error number wasn't listed in the documentation, so I called for telephone support. Now I just unplug the unit, wait 5-10 seconds, and plug it in again. It starts right up.
5) I can't be sure it was only the swapping out of the water heater, but my gas/electric bill has been, on average, a bit lower since replacing my old 40 gallon gas water heater.

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Bosch 1600H LP AquaStar 4.3 GPM Indoor Tankless Liquid Propane Water Heater Review

Bosch 1600H LP AquaStar 4.3 GPM Indoor Tankless Liquid Propane Water Heater
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Installed 4 weeks ago and it was done in a day. Note you need a 5" vent pipe so figure replacing your old 3". Water is hot in about 10 to 15 sec.. Would buy again!

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Bosch, 1 Major Appliance Or Shower At A Time, Hydro Ignition, LP Tankless Water Heater, Hydro Ignition Means No Standing Pilot Or Electricity Needed, Water Flow Spins The Hyrdro Igniter Which Generates The Millivolts Needed To Ignite The Gas To The Burners, 117,000 BTU Input Delivers 3.3 Gallons Per Minute At A 55 Degree Fahrenheit Rise, Standing Pilot, 1/2 Gallon Flow To Activate Burners, Vertical Venting Only, Must Use 5" Double Wall B Vent Pipe, Modulating Gas Valve From 28,000 To 117,000 BTU's For Optimal Performance, 1/2" Male Nominal Pipe Thread Gas And Water Connections, Natural Gas Pressure, Minimum 7" Water Column To Maximum 14" Water Column, Water Pressure Minimum 18 PSI To Maximum 150 PSI, 69% Energy Factor, 80% Thermal Efficiency, T & P Valve Included, Warranty 12 Years On Heat Exchanger & 2 Years On Parts, CSA Certified.

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Bosch 1000P LP AquaStar 2-3/5 GPM Indoor Tankless Gas Water Heater Review

Bosch 1000P LP AquaStar 2-3/5 GPM Indoor Tankless Gas Water Heater
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I purchased this heater to replace a small electric tank heater I use for an outdoor shower. The electric was too small and I wanted more hot water without having a large storage tank. After consulting with an electrician and finding the electric or natural gas tank would be too costly to hook up, I was happy to find the LP version. I had a plumber all set up to install this and he never showed, so after a week or so of hesitation, I installed it myself in basically a couple hours (not including trips to hardware stores). The main issue for installation (since it was outside) was getting the right hookup for the propane tank. To use the regulator included, you cannot just buy a hose at Home Depot or Lowe's. I went (with the regulator) to a propane store here in Austin, TX and was set up with a 2nd regulator (I was told one at the heater and one at the tank, even with a short 2 foot hose, is safest), compression thingys and a nice flexible metal hose. It took a few tries, but I got it going.
NOTE: when I used the hose from Home Depot with the attached regulator that was near the tank and did not use the regulator that came with the heater, the pilot would go out within minutes. When I got the double regulator hose set up, it seemed not to work at first, then I realized I had left the unit "on" and slid the knob back to the "off" position to the left and let it sit for about 5 minutes and tried again. It then worked perfectly.
Set up now, I have a splitter coming from my outdoor faucet, one to a garden hose, the other line goes to the heater ( I used flexible washer/dryer hoses to hook up the shower with brass compression things to make them fit). The shower is from Target (the wood one - not sure if they still carry it) and just has one water line, so it's only hot water coming in. I have the heater turned to it's lowest setting and last night the water was the perfect temp! So, that means if turned up, it can easily be warm/hot enough for a shower where cold water is mixed in if you are in a warm climate. This shower will only be used in warm weather, after swimming or gardening, so I will not need it to heat very cold water. I would expect it to be sufficient for heating most water in the summer for this type of use. At full heat, the water is very, very hot, so I would expect there is enough power there to heat most summer water temps for a comfortable shower.
It is installed on the outside of my house (I had to get a masonry bit and additional hardware to attach it to my rock house - this took about half of the install time) and will be pulled down in the winter and stored to prolong its life.
I worked so hard on this and had searched the internet for info on an easy outdoor shower water heater. I'm handy, but knew the build-it-yourself solar boxes were not where I wanted to go. I hoped this would work and am thrilled with the results. If you would like to contact me about how I set it up or with questions, I will try to help. doshermanasjewelry@yahoo.com . Not sure if I'm allowed to give that out, but going into this, I would have loved a reference for what I was doing or if it would work.



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