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Bosch AquaStar Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater #125HX-NG Review

Bosch AquaStar Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater #125HX-NG
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We have had the hydroignition Bosch 125 Natural Gas Tankless for a year and a half now. It is absolutely incredible. I have checked our gas bill each month for the first year and the minimum we have saved (gas usage, not gas bill) is 22% each month! We have used as much as 77% less gas than the same month the previous year. Unlimited hot water on demand! No drawbacks. Plus, it uses a small space compared to the dinosaur tank water heater we had before. It fits attached to a stud where it's out of the way!!!! I would NEVER go back to the traditional tank water heater. Temperature control is extremely simple. Don't let unknowledgeable plumbers steer you astray with ridiculous things like "the water doesn't get hot" UNTRUE!!!!! Those plumbers just don't know and don't care to know and are stuck in the plumbing dark ages. This is the only way to go. Bosch stands behind this product.

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Factory-Reconditioned PowerStar AE125-RE Whole House Electric Tankless Water Heater Review

Factory-Reconditioned PowerStar AE125-RE Whole House Electric Tankless Water Heater
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We bought this water heater for our guest house. After major rewiring and plumbing changes and drywall repair from the rewiring and plumbing, we were finally ready to install. The installation went well and at first it seemed the system was working. However, after a short period of time, the water was not staying hot. It fluctuated in temperature when taking a shower and trying to do dishes in the kitchen sink, it actually went cold. We thought something was wrong so we called CPO (where we bought it) to see about getting this unit replaced, and they referred us to Bosch. After troubleshooting with Bosch on the phone, changing settings, water flow, etc., over a period of a few hours, we were not getting the improvement we had hoped for. To get hot water, the water pressure had to be turned so low that you could not reasonably expect to take a bath...it took forever to fill the tub. We continued to try different settings for a couple of days, but we had guests coming and needed hot water (which we had tried to explain to Bosch) so we went to the big orange store and bought an identical unit for $649. That one worked much better and proved to us that something was wrong with the first unit. Trying to return the unit to CPO, they required an incident number from Bosch. Called Bosch to get an incident number (why didn't we get one in the first place?) and had to call back several times due to long waits on the phone. They will not give an incident number unless they determine the unit is defective. If the board needs to be replaced, they will replace that, but will not give us an incident number to return the unit. So now we have a paper weight that cost $400. CPO will take it back, but not without charging a restocking fee and shipping. Why would we want them to restock this and sell it to someone else? Our only recourse at this time is to get back on the phone with Bosch and try to have them determine whether or not this item is defective. Never mind that they would have us go without hot water the whole time. This has been frustrating and expensive. Also, even though we have one that works, it is not really robust enough for a whole house water heater. Better as a point of service heater, but then you better make sure you have a big enough electrical service in your house to manage everything else you need to use. We have 200 amps, but if we needed two of these units, we'd have to upgrade our service in order to accommodate the huge amount of power these things need up front. Don't buy one of these unless they get the technology more stable.

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Bosch 1600H LP AquaStar 4.3 GPM Indoor Tankless Liquid Propane Water Heater Review

Bosch 1600H LP AquaStar 4.3 GPM Indoor Tankless Liquid Propane Water Heater
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Installed 4 weeks ago and it was done in a day. Note you need a 5" vent pipe so figure replacing your old 3". Water is hot in about 10 to 15 sec.. Would buy again!

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Bosch, 1 Major Appliance Or Shower At A Time, Hydro Ignition, LP Tankless Water Heater, Hydro Ignition Means No Standing Pilot Or Electricity Needed, Water Flow Spins The Hyrdro Igniter Which Generates The Millivolts Needed To Ignite The Gas To The Burners, 117,000 BTU Input Delivers 3.3 Gallons Per Minute At A 55 Degree Fahrenheit Rise, Standing Pilot, 1/2 Gallon Flow To Activate Burners, Vertical Venting Only, Must Use 5" Double Wall B Vent Pipe, Modulating Gas Valve From 28,000 To 117,000 BTU's For Optimal Performance, 1/2" Male Nominal Pipe Thread Gas And Water Connections, Natural Gas Pressure, Minimum 7" Water Column To Maximum 14" Water Column, Water Pressure Minimum 18 PSI To Maximum 150 PSI, 69% Energy Factor, 80% Thermal Efficiency, T & P Valve Included, Warranty 12 Years On Heat Exchanger & 2 Years On Parts, CSA Certified.

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Bosch AE115 PowerStar 2.6 GPM Indoor Whole House Electric Tankless Water Heater Review

Bosch AE115 PowerStar 2.6 GPM Indoor Whole House Electric Tankless Water Heater
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I have used these units in several buildings. The biggest building being an 8 unit building all with 1 bedroom apartments. Each apartment has it own hot water heater.
We have OVER a 60% fail rate. First you do a LOT of electrical work to get to the point of being able to install it. Then you put it in and this what progresses:
- day one works great and you think "what a great idea I had"...
- few weeks or months later it is hot for a minute, then warm, then cold as it runs
- you reset the unit try and test everything, it works ok you think
- get a call a day later it is the same warm then cold then warm showers
- you take it out and return it to the store.
I have replaced 3 yes THREE in one single apartment alone. All in all I bought 8, for an 8 unit building, and have installed either new or replacements 18, in a eight unit building that only has 8 on any given day, at this time. I am a whiz at getting them in and out.
So if you are looking to waste money and a LOT of time as you replace it and try and fix it etc this is for you. These could not even sustain a 1 bedroom with ONE tenant. All my units have a single tenant in them....
I did call the company and they are very nice. The guy I was talking with was a technician on what they called the "pro side" for builders professional etc. I explained everything to him and told him of my fail rate and he said that was possible. So they know of the problem, over 60% fail rate did NOT even phase him, he obviously had heard about this plenty of times before me......


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Bosch AE125 PowerStar 4 GPM Indoor Electric Tankless Water Heater, White Review

Bosch AE125 PowerStar 4 GPM Indoor Electric Tankless Water Heater, White
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I purchased the Bosch AE125 Electric Tankless Water Heater 4 months ago and have regretted it. Several considerations should be taken.
First the unit is not an analogue to a conventional tank-type water heater. It delivers hot water based upon a system that measures the incoming water temperature and flow rate and then "calculates" the number of elements (it actually has 6) that it turns on to provide an outflow temperature based on the setting of the temperature control. This system is not satisfactory for a water supply which varies in pressure, SUCH AS A WELL, as the unit itself provides substantial resistance to flow and thus the flow rate through the unit varies and thus the temperature of the outgoing water. This causes the delivered water to vary widely in temperature, from VERY HOT to VERY COLD. The unit would be improved if it was "smart enough" to not only measure incoming temp, but, also, outgoing temperature and flow rate and maintain the outgoing temp at a constant level.
Second: The unit has a flow sensor, which will shut the heaters off at low flow, so, therefore, if you wish to have a small amount of hot water flowing into your sink for shaving purposes, the water will not be heated at all. This "Feature" also has considerable influence on the use of "low flow" faucets.
Third: If you have a home which is heated by electricity and you install this unit, be aware that it consumes 120 AMPS at maximum heat rate. In my case, my electric heat consumes 120 Amps, also; my home has a 200AMP panel. Do the math, turn on the heat to warm the house and then take a bath, and suddenly the entire house is plunged into darkness. I have decided that I must sense when the water heater is turned on and prevent the central heat from coming on. This should be doable, and since the unit only runs when hot water is required, should disable the central heat only for short periods. HOWEVER, this is a feature that should be provided by Bosch and/or their literature should make clear to the potential purchaser that this is a problem with the electric heater.
Fourth: The unit apparently switches one or more of its six elements on or off as it attempts to heat the water. There does not appear to be any partially on for any of the elements. This leads to the problem of "stepped" heating of the water. And because the unit measures flow in and calculates the outgoing rate, if the water is mildly too hot or too cold, simply changing the mix at the faucet does not necessarily result in mild changes in temperature, a tiny change at the faucet can cause one or all of the elements to switch off resulting in a dramatic change at the faucet. AGAIN an argument for sensing the outgoing temperature and maintaining it by modulating the elements for a smoother temperature curve.
I would rate this unit as unsatisfactory for any home with a well, and only marginally acceptable for any home with electric heat (but only if modified as I indicated above).
Had I known then, what I know now, I would have saved myself a lot of money and frustration by purchasing a conventional tank-type water heater.

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Bosch 1000P LP AquaStar 2-3/5 GPM Indoor Tankless Gas Water Heater Review

Bosch 1000P LP AquaStar 2-3/5 GPM Indoor Tankless Gas Water Heater
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I purchased this heater to replace a small electric tank heater I use for an outdoor shower. The electric was too small and I wanted more hot water without having a large storage tank. After consulting with an electrician and finding the electric or natural gas tank would be too costly to hook up, I was happy to find the LP version. I had a plumber all set up to install this and he never showed, so after a week or so of hesitation, I installed it myself in basically a couple hours (not including trips to hardware stores). The main issue for installation (since it was outside) was getting the right hookup for the propane tank. To use the regulator included, you cannot just buy a hose at Home Depot or Lowe's. I went (with the regulator) to a propane store here in Austin, TX and was set up with a 2nd regulator (I was told one at the heater and one at the tank, even with a short 2 foot hose, is safest), compression thingys and a nice flexible metal hose. It took a few tries, but I got it going.
NOTE: when I used the hose from Home Depot with the attached regulator that was near the tank and did not use the regulator that came with the heater, the pilot would go out within minutes. When I got the double regulator hose set up, it seemed not to work at first, then I realized I had left the unit "on" and slid the knob back to the "off" position to the left and let it sit for about 5 minutes and tried again. It then worked perfectly.
Set up now, I have a splitter coming from my outdoor faucet, one to a garden hose, the other line goes to the heater ( I used flexible washer/dryer hoses to hook up the shower with brass compression things to make them fit). The shower is from Target (the wood one - not sure if they still carry it) and just has one water line, so it's only hot water coming in. I have the heater turned to it's lowest setting and last night the water was the perfect temp! So, that means if turned up, it can easily be warm/hot enough for a shower where cold water is mixed in if you are in a warm climate. This shower will only be used in warm weather, after swimming or gardening, so I will not need it to heat very cold water. I would expect it to be sufficient for heating most water in the summer for this type of use. At full heat, the water is very, very hot, so I would expect there is enough power there to heat most summer water temps for a comfortable shower.
It is installed on the outside of my house (I had to get a masonry bit and additional hardware to attach it to my rock house - this took about half of the install time) and will be pulled down in the winter and stored to prolong its life.
I worked so hard on this and had searched the internet for info on an easy outdoor shower water heater. I'm handy, but knew the build-it-yourself solar boxes were not where I wanted to go. I hoped this would work and am thrilled with the results. If you would like to contact me about how I set it up or with questions, I will try to help. doshermanasjewelry@yahoo.com . Not sure if I'm allowed to give that out, but going into this, I would have loved a reference for what I was doing or if it would work.



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